The Level-Up Leadership of Self Development and Family Dynamics | Patrick Tromley

I’ve got Patrick Tromley on the podcast today! His story is all about ditching the 9-to-5 grind in the mortgage biz for something way more fulfilling – running his own show and making a real difference. Starting off feeling pretty stuck, Patrick dove deep into self-help, hitting the gym, and figuring out what really makes him tick. It wasn’t just about making bank but finding that sweet spot where work feels like play, and making an impact feels like breathing. He got into the nitty-gritty of personal growth, throwing in some solid life and family leadership hacks along the way. Patrick and I dropped some wisdom on how important it is to just be with your thoughts, face your demons, and do good stuff without waiting for a pat on the back. It’s about waking up before the sun, sticking to your guns, and never letting go of that growth mindset, even when things get tough. Patrick’s journey is a masterclass in leveling up your life game, from mastering intermittent fasting to juggling family life like a pro. He’s inviting everyone to join the ride, promising loads of inspiring tales and life lessons on how to be your best self. So, if you’re looking to shake things up and get serious about where you’re heading, Patrick’s your guy.

Patrick Tromley showcases a journey from wandering without direction to embodying meaningful transformation. Once navigating through life without a clear purpose, Patrick has charted a new course marked by significant personal growth. Embracing a lifestyle of discipline, positivity, and intentional living, he’s cultivated a mindset as resilient as a lighthouse against the storm. As a remarkable husband and father, Patrick prioritizes purpose above all. He’s passionately guiding other men to enhance their lives, ensuring they become steadfast supporters of their families through mindset, nutrition & fitness.  Patrick’s story, coupled with the transformative impact of his coaching, promises to inspire those he comes into contact with.

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Justin: All right, Science Flipping podcast listeners, as always in this episode is brought to you by Rocketly.ai if you’re looking for a seller, lead generating system that has automation in AI bot and has sellers coming to you, then Rocketly.ai is your choice. Make sure you head over to the website. Fill out an application and schedule a demo now to see the power of Rocketly.ai. What is up? Entrepreneur DNA Family, I am back with another guest on the entrepreneur podcast, Mr. Patrick Tromley, the leader of Level Up Legion. He is on a mission to change men’s lives, to be the level up dad that he is, to be able to be the leader in the lighthouse of your family. And he is on here to talk all about the meaning of that, why he developed this, and how important that is for him and for us as men and entrepreneurs and a type people. My brother, Patrick, what is happening, bro?

Patrick: Thank you for having me on, man, I’m I’m happy to be here, excited and ready to get into it.

Yeah, dude. Well, listen, first and foremost, I want everyone to make sure, if you are an entrepreneur, if you are a a type personality, a driver, someone who’s gonna lead their tribe. Yes, usually the focus is on men, but he has women in his tribe as well, and that is you. I want everyone to follow him first. What is your handle on Instagram?

Patrick: ThelevelupDad, @thelevelupdad, straightforward.

Justin: Straightforward. Level Up. Legion, levelupdad.(that’s it.)

Justin: You know, listen, you and I have had a journey together for years now. It’s been pretty incredible to see what you’ve done within real estate and then coming from a w2 job and then creating this business on your own. Let’s jump into that. Let’s jump into going from the w2 job mentality into being in entrepreneurship and creating a true business essentially from nothing but passion. Talk a little bit about your experience there.

Patrick: Yeah. So, I started in the mortgage side of the real estate industry. I was in there for 20, almost 25 years, and constantly working for somebody else. I went through the mortgage meltdown. Had two different banks that I worked at shut down, so I was really kind of at somebody else’s whim, right? I wasn’t in control of my career. Wasn’t in control of my life at that point. So that’s when I started looking at going direct to the consumer, so that I could generate my own business, and wasn’t able to find the level of success that I had early in my career. So then that’s kind of when you and I connected, and I was going into the investing side of real estate, and again, was was able to do all right, but wasn’t able to reach that same level of success. And I also felt that something was missing inside, right? I wasn’t in control. I was always chasing that next deal. And that’s that gets tiring, and it’s really an insatiable appetite. So I look for something to do to really kind of fill the void that I had, and that started with personal development. So I started going down that path and hired a mentor. And my mentor really changed my focus from chasing the bag to aligning with my conscience, listening to what my conscience was telling me. And by doing that, I really found my purpose. So my purpose, and I believe most of our purpose, is to create the best version of us and give that person, to our family, to our tribe, to our company, our clients. And so going through that process of really trying to get better myself, started with health and fitness, because that’s the foundation for success everywhere else. And by going through and following a plan, I built a high level of discipline. I really changed my perspective and the way that I operate and the way that I view stuff, and it was a complete mindset shift from being kind of a selfish man child, I like to say, to an elite level leader, where I put my purpose ahead of my pleasure in every circumstance. And by doing that, I saw the direct impact on my family. And it wasn’t that I was a bad dad or a bad husband before, but I wasn’t as good as I knew I could be. And so by going through this process of really trying to get better, I saw the direct impact on my family. I saw my kids have more joy. There was we were more connected. My wife and I became even closer than we were before. Our relationship has gone to the next level. And so because of the impact I’ve seen directly on my family, that’s what made me feel obligated to try and help others, as many as possible, get that same kind of joy from their families, and provide that kind of leadership and love to their families.

Justin: Yeah, I think that thing you said right now that all entrepreneurs need to listen to. Listen at the end of the day, all people, if you’re a human and you’re listening to this, or if you’re watching this, which you should be watching all episodes over at justincolby.tv then you need to focus on this saying that he just said “purpose over pleasure”. I’ve known Patrick now for years, and when you just said that, that shook something inside of me, because, as you know, I’m a leader to a tribe of Science of Flipping and not just that, but my wife and my children and things of that nature. But that is something that I think a lot of humans don’t value, is, what is your purpose? I I talk about, you know, purpose over the why. A lot of people will say, What’s your why? And I think that is, in my opinion, I think that’s just blown out now. I think it’s generic. I think there’s books, and everyone’s saying, Okay, you have to understand what your why is. I don’t really resonate with that anymore. At the time I did. I actually think it’s what’s your purpose? Why are you doing anything at all besides just breathing like (100%) Why are you here? Right? Exactly. And so if you’re an entrepreneur, if you’re a you know for you, where I want to go is that transition from w2 to level up Legion, right? But you have to understand that there’s a bigger purpose for all of it, right? Making money is fine, and you know, obviously it helps you get out of challenges, and we’ll talk about your challenges here shortly, and but the purpose has to be bigger, and you have found that. And I think entrepreneurs need to find the purpose, not just the why? Because every answer is their children, that’s obvious, but what is the purpose behind it all? So let’s talk. Let’s dive in a little bit more now that you found you’re there doing loans, you’re a w2 employee making good money. You know, you’re not destitute. You don’t have that story, per se, but you know you’ve then kind of had a calling internally, to some extent. It sounds like, can you say exactly, right? I’m more than this. I am more than this dude that’s sitting here, sending loans, making some money, everything’s mediocre, everything’s nice. Can’t really complain. And let’s talk about that. And then how did that transition happen in you to now go out and create such a legion of Level Up Legion, and to try, try to, not try, but are actively changing people’s lives. I literally just was on a call with one of your newer members. I’ll leave him nameless, but he’s like, yeah, man, I’m not, I’m not. I’m fasting. I’m gonna fast. And so, I immediately was like, Oh, I get it. So, you know what? What was that transition for you?

Patrick: It really was starting personal development. I I wanted to make more money. And that may have not been the the best motive initially, but I wanted to make more money, so I figured I had to get better, to bring more value, to be able to earn more money. But by going through that process of really working on myself, improving my mindset, getting healthy, getting fit. I believe my conscience is is the voice of God. And so by listening to that, everything kind of fell into place, right? My purpose started to become more and more clear. I felt more fulfilled with the the actions I was doing. And by doing that, more and more, I picked up more momentum, and so I knew that this was what I was supposed to do. I just knew it internally, and I think that’s because I was in alignment with my conscience of what it was telling me to do. So the way I evaluate everything now is, does this align with that highest and best self that I’m working to create? And by doing that, using that as a barometer or a gauge, everything really become so much simpler. Right decision making becomes so much simpler. Energy is pushed to the right areas. You’re not aimless now your purpose and your purpose driven. So you do everything that’s in alignment with that purpose. And so for me, that was the biggest thing, was listening to my conscience. And by doing that, I got that sense of fulfillment. I got that inner peace that I know most of us are chasing and and it was just a real epiphany that, you know, it’s not about me, it’s about who I need to be for my family and for my people and for my tribe. And that was the biggest kind of mind-blowing scenario that I ran through. And it has really changed exactly who I am. It has changed how I operate. It’s changed how I think about everything. And it was, it was huge. It was huge. And it’s, it seems simple, it seems kind of well, yeah, anybody can do that. But it’s true, anybody can do it. The thing is, you have to sit and actually sit in silence, sit in it, and go through sometimes some pain. You have to relive some stuff, but you have to heal and overcome to get into alignment with your purpose. So that was the biggest transition for me.

Justin: Well, everything that you say yes to, you’re saying no to something else, right? And so one of the things that you just said there that is very, very valuable for the listeners to understand is you wanted to go out and create more value, and you knew by doing that you were going to live a bigger life. I don’t you know, always relate to everything about money, per se, but it also equates to more money. The more value you provide, the more money you’re going to make Period. End of story. Why do you think Tony Robbins is Tony Robbins or Oprah is Oprah or name, the name Elon Musk, you know Steve Jobs. They provided massive, massive value, right? And look where their bank accounts are at. And so that is true in any scenario, in any vertical. And no matter what, I don’t care if you’re a w2 employee, if you provide more value than the rest of your employees, you will get a raise, you will get a promotion. You will now, it may not happen when you want, right? That’s. The other component is you guys have to have a proper expectation on the result you’re trying to achieve, right? And so for you, and I know you very well, like you’re not nearly the size that you want to be in terms of your business, but that happens over time, and as you offer more value, like I just said this morning, just this morning, I’m talking to a new member of yours, because you’re getting in the right circles. You’re in alignment with your purpose. You’re talking about what people can do, and that is vibrating correctly with those that need you know, to level up, frankly, and that’s the key. But always focusing on providing value without asking in return is absolutely everything.

Patrick: That’s it, I mean, and that’s, that’s what I try and do. Is especially like on Instagram, I try and put as much value out there as possible so that people can take from it what applies to them, or what might benefit them, and apply it to their lives to try and get better. I don’t charge for any of that, obviously, like that is just, here’s everything that I do on a daily basis. Here’s what I think, here’s how I view these kinds of situations. And a lot of people are able to extract a lot of value and apply it to their life. So that’s what it’s all about. For me, the income is going to come when it when it’s supposed to right? I’m not in that, but all I can control is me and what I do. So I put as much effort and energy into providing as much value to as many people as possible.

Justin: Let’s talk about social media real quick. What have you seen? You know, listen, as a loan broker, you could care less. You’re like, I don’t need anything, right? Like, I’m gonna go out there and book a business and I’m gonna do my thing. What can you talk to me or us about how social media has helped your company? Branding you? Branding your value? Branding your mission? Your purpose? Let’s talk about the growth there.

Patrick: Yeah, I mean, before I started doing this, I hadn’t posted in over a year. I would just throw random stuff up in the stories. But since I’ve been doing this, I’ve posted multiple times for over a year, almost a year and a half now, and that has been where all my growth has come from. That’s the only I do. I don’t do outside ads. I don’t really post anywhere else except for Instagram. And I have poured is so much energy and effort into creating that brand, and just the reach that you have alone organically, I mean, and then you have paid ads as well. It. It is such a huge tool that anybody that’s not using it is is missing the boat, because the amount of reach that you have, for the cost that’s unparalleled. There’s nowhere else you’re going to get that and really bringing in others, right, people that are the same like of the same kind of mindset, and collaborating with them and helping really spread that message and build that positive community is, is what it’s all about, really again, delivering that value as much as possible. And social media is, is the best way that I’ve found. It’s the best way to reach the most people for the the amount of energy and effort to do other ways doesn’t make sense. So social media is, is the best way, in my opinion, these days, to build any kind of business, any kind of brand, company brand, that is the best way you’re going to reach people. It’s, it’s funny though, sometimes you’ll put something out that you’re like, this is, this is all right. And then that one ends up picking up the most traction, going viral for whatever reason. And then you put some real fire content out that you’re like, yes, this, this one’s going to hit and it doesn’t do nearly as much. So it’s, it’s definitely a weird kind of thing, weird platform or weird beast to play with, but at the end of the day, it’s still going to be the best, the most cost effective and really the most powerful tool that you can use to build a business.

Justin: Yeah, it’s Gary V’s, point of consistency. You got to be really consistent every single day, multiple times a day, because you don’t know what hits you don’t know what goes viral. Let’s, let’s jump really quickly into what you do post? What is your purpose? What are you helping entrepreneurs, men with?

Patrick: Yeah, so we start the foundation of everything, right? And that’s health and fitness. So by dialing in on your nutrition, What you eat? What kind of food you’re eating? How much you’re eating? You’re setting the baseline of discipline, right? If you can’t control what you’re putting in your mouth, I guarantee you’re undisciplined in at least one or multiple areas of your life. So we start there, fitness, nutrition, and then early wake up, right? Early Wake Up is a game changer, and I know you’ve experienced this, but getting up early, earlier than most people are. I get up at 330 every day. I’m not saying you need to get up that early, but if you get up earlier than normal. It gives you hours ahead of the competition. It gives you hours to devote to your personal development without taking away your your responsibilities, to your family, to your business, to your clients. So that time I use from 330 to 630 to work on myself. I train I go through my meditations, I do my gratitudes. I do all my morning process so that it sets me up to be able to dominate and provide the most value I can throughout the rest of the day. So we we start there. That’s the baseline, early wake up, nutrition and training, right? Working out, getting physical, moving around, so you can get into the flow state, so that your brain’s on point. You’re fired up, you’re ready to go and dominate. And then from there, we start to bring. More positive habit, building tools, daily checklists, these kinds of things to really establish the positive habits are going to allow them to not only level up, but keep leveling up, right? And it’s a constant process. This isn’t like you’re going to reach the top and then you’re done and it’s over. It’s a daily attempt, a daily goal, of getting 1% better than the day before, and by doing that your whole life levels up. Because when you start with that foundation of health and fitness, that discipline that you build there to always go to the gym when you’re you know you’re supposed to to get up early, to follow a nutrition plan, if you can do those three things without missing, you’re going to dominate in every single other aspect of life, because you’re going to be able to take that discipline and apply it to each one of those things, and it happens quickly if you commit to it, and you don’t really have time, or you don’t give time to negotiate with your inner. Everything changes, because now you’re a disciplined, high level, high value individual who doesn’t miss, and you don’t allow yourself to miss. And then you become dependable. You become even more valuable to the people that you work with, the people that you live with. It’s, it’s really that foundation, and from there, the sky’s the limit. So we start like I said, we start with the health and fitness and nutrition, and from there, it’s, it’s just constant progress day after day.

Justin: Yeah, I think you said something that, you know, no one wants to do a lot of this stuff, but it’s really about, you know, holding yourself accountable to do the things that you don’t want to do so you can be disciplined. I mean, that’s the key word there, right? Like, I have meetings, I have things I have to do I don’t want to do in business, but I have to be disciplined enough to actually do them. Because, you know, there’s no time management. I think people mistake that, right? The reason why you wake up early is you’re trying to steal time for yourself, which is the right way to think about it, right? I can personally vouch when Patrick challenged me to, you know, start waking up early, and I didn’t think I woke up late, like 6am isn’t like I’m a late riser, but when I started breaking into the 4:00 AM’s is when I saw a massive difference of fulfillment in myself, because I was able to literally accomplish all my personal stuff that I needed to do each and every day well before, right the day really started, well before my wife woke up, well, well before my daughter woke up, etc. I hit the gym, I read, I had I answered emails if I actually had to. It allows you to sleep better, because you don’t have to worry about stressing out about the thing you didn’t accomplish yesterday, because you have time in the morning to accomplish it before everyone wakes up. It just is a is a absolute game changer, and will absolutely level you up. In 15 minute increments made the difference for me, like from six to 5:45, 5:45, to 5:35, 5:30 to 5:15, my body didn’t even recognize all of a sudden, I’m in the 4:00 AM’s because I just did it over 15 minutes a week consistently, and waking up at 4:45 AM I started just naturally waking up at 430 and my body just was like, All right, dude, this is when you wake up. Let’s go and I’ll echo this by saying another thing. My wife is eight and a half months pregnant. We’re expecting our second child. It is amazing, but I’ve also come to the recognition, like little infants, they have interesting feeding times, sleep schedules, things of that nature. So I’ve started to kind of try to adjust prematurely before the kid is here on my schedule. And it’s really kind of thrown me off, frankly, right? Because I’m trying to adjust to the kid and arrange it relative to what I believe is going to happen with the new kid. And I literally told Stephanie this morning. I said, Babe, I’m cranky. I’m frustrated, like it’s just not my jam, like I need to I might have to be extreme when I wake up now, because, you know, children want to feed it two in the morning, four in the morning, all these different times. And I want to help my wife do that, but that’s why I’m actually transitioning into a later workout in the day. The challenge I see with that dude is, I’m not working out, I end up rounding off to your push ups, which is fine. It is better than nothing. I get that. But you know, because when you try to work out later in the day, shit happens. Calls must happen. You know, your lawyer needs you, your CFO needs you, your salesperson needs you. Things happen that It’s not ideal, and so I’ve been frustrated in the last like four weeks because I’ve been trying to reschedule my day in a way to fit a brand new baby, which will only really last for 30-45, days. But I wanted to prepare for it, and it’s frustrating, because I love knocking all that personal stuff out in the morning, because I don’t have the frustration. I don’t have that I didn’t hit it, I didn’t I didn’t live to my highest self that day, because I didn’t go to the gym. I don’t have that when I knock it out in the morning. So I just want to echo that for everybody. I feel it every day, and for those of you out there that want to give the crap of like, Oh, I’m a night owl and I can’t wake up early, it’s all mental crap. You tell yourself, there’s a reason why the army is so successful. You can’t fight it. They train their men and women to wake up extremely early. It doesn’t matter whether they’re a night owl or not. They then adopt that, and it is their lifestyle forever. You know, if that’s all I have to say about that, for those that just don’t believe it. So, Patrick, you know, we just kind of went on a rant. I at least went on a rant about the power of waking up early, and that’s just a component of what you teach. Let’s talk about kind of the mental fortitude I think people need to start to adopt in in I want to use your example, knowing you personally, the way I do, of the hardships you’ve gone over for the past four or six months, give or take with your wife. Let’s talk about that, and let’s talk about the mental fortitude that you needed and the ability to make it a pretty seamless easy. As easy as it is, your extreme example could be because you had this alignment, and you were able to lean on your structure. You were able to lean on your schedule. You were leaning on all the things that you teach in Level Up Legion. Let’s talk about the hardship that you went through, and then how you were able to get through that and continue to this day.

Patrick: Yeah. So that was that was pretty crazy back in, say, August, my wife randomly had a seizure. So I get up at 3:30 right? And I was getting up out of bed, and she started making some weird noises, and I was talking to her. I’m like, Hey, you all right? You all right? No response. Go over to her side of the bed. She’s having a full-on seizure, choking, turning purple. I thought she was dying, so I’m holding her in my arms, thinking she’s dying. And I’m like, What is going on? How what? And luckily, she stopped seizing. Went to the hospital. They’re like, Oh, you know, 50% of adults will have at least a one time seizure in their life, and then they’ll go on to lead a life and never have another seizure again. So we’re like, okay, weird, but I guess it is what it is. And then we made it to, like, 95 days after that. And then she the day before Thanksgiving, she had a seizure in the shower. She fell. I heard her in the shower. Was able to, again, get in there and kind of hold her as she was doing it, and then got her out to the couch, kind of laid her down. And she was like, recovering. She went into another seizure. So she had two seizures that day, took her to the hospital again. They still didn’t know what was going on. They couldn’t figure it out. And then the following week, so the first week of December, she had two more seizures. She I was in the shower. She went into the laundry room to get something out of the dryer. Ended up essentially shutting down as she was getting the clothes out of the dryer, and fell, hit her head, gave herself a concussion as part of the seizure, and then had another seizure about 15 minutes later, on the couch again, and that was crazy. It was for my kids that was the the most intense part was seeing them, because they found her on the floor of the laundry room, and they came in me, so they were freaking out, and they’re looking at me, like, what do we do? How do we what’s going on, help us, kind of thing. And had this happened, you know, a year and a half ago, little bit longer, I would have been in a crap show. I would have not been able to stand there and be like, Hey guys, this is alright. I’m here. We’re going to handle this. Mom’s gonna be okay. And really it was, it was that mindset of, I have to be the lighthouse. I have to be that emotional rock for my family that I’ve been practicing in case something bad went down. And unfortunately, it did, but I was able to call on that right? I was able to pull from the inside the work that I’ve been putting in, and it allowed me to lead the family properly, get us through those times. And now we are a little bit better. We’re a lot better. We have some measures in place to be able to help her now versus before, I couldn’t do a damn thing. I just had to sit there and hold her and wait for it to happen. Hopefully she wasn’t going to fall again, that kind of thing. But I would have lost had I not been working on myself, and it would have been bad for not just me, but my three boys looking up to me, to be that, that lighthouse. So it is paramount, and that’s that’s why I say like adversity is going to come to your life. It’s going to happen that’s guaranteed whether or not you’re ready for it. That’s 100% on you. And the best way to get ready for that adversity is to introduce it to yourself on purpose, micro adversities, or whatever you want to call it, do little hard things consistently to make yourself stronger. Getting up early is a prime example, hitting your training, following nutrition. Again, that’s why we start there, because by doing that, you’re making it harder on yourself, but it’s making you stronger at the same time. So that is the key there, and that’s what worked for me so well. And it was an intense time, man like you saw it, you called me, and I appreciate you checking in on me, but I didn’t know it was a thing to be able to catch epilepsy. Epilepsy at 44 years old. I had never heard of that, and she doesn’t have any history of it in her family. She’s never had a seizure before then. So it was a real crazy time, to say the least. And I thank God that she’s here. And I thank God for the process and the work that I put in on myself to be able to allow me to do what I needed to do in that time for my family, it was, it was huge. It was a game changer.

Justin: Yeah, I think you know. Listen, even to myself, I don’t do the best job of preparing for bad scenarios right now. I’m pretty dialed in, right? But, you know, listen, at the end of the day, I think there’s a your type of client in what you do and how you can help people, is pretty much all of humanity, right, right? And to be able to mentally get them strong through the physical fitness first, then the mental toughness in your diet. But the reality is, you know, you want to be able to help change the people that are trying to offer value to the world, right? And that’s what you really are trying to do. And I think there’s a there’s a principle in all of this, which is, you never know when your last day is your last day. The only thing that is for certain is we don’t make it out of this bitch alive, right? And the only guarantee is that we don’t, right? And so it’s up to everyone listening to this, like, do you want to vibe with with Patrick and understand what he’s understanding and standing and say, Dude, I need to start to level up my crap and get my crap in order, because tomorrow could be a terrible day, and I need to be ready for it. Or do you just want to continue to exist and just keep your head down and act like everything’s perfect, and we all know it’s not, and that’s on the listener. You guys get to make that decision right on on what you do now listen you. You at least care enough to be listening to this podcast, right? That is for sure. There’s, you know, 10 to 20,000 people in the first week that this is going to come out that are going to be listening. So you guys listening and watching this on justincolby.tv then you guys, I know you do want something more. If I can tell you guys anything, Patrick is the leader you want to be listening to when it comes to being able to get your shit together, mentally, physically, and then that way can roll into the spiritual part of who you are again, kind of speaking to men, being the lighthouse, being I call it being the Lion of your tribe, right? So Patrick uses lighthouse, I say lion, right? And to be able to be the provider and the caretaker and all the things. It is massively important for people to be dialed in on that, and it is too easily shaken off by I just need to make more money, or I needed to go do this thing.

Patrick: Yeah, and to many people run from it. Too many people run from that responsibility because it is hard work, right? And you know, you’re putting so much time and energy into building your business, running your business, a lot of us have, have let ourselves go, and that’s where I was, right. I let myself get soft and squishy. I was lying to myself. Hey, I’m trying to get big. I’m trying to poke all this bullshit. And at the end of the day, I was just undisciplined because it wasn’t important to me. I didn’t prioritize being a good husband, not that I was bad, but I didn’t prioritize it and try and work on that. I didn’t prioritize and try and be the best dad that I could be.

Justin: Well, there’s a difference between good and great. I mean, I’ll tell you, I’m I’ve been asked to do three separate keynotes recently and I’m excited to do them, but it’s because, why is to talk about this difference between being good? You were a good husband. You weren’t, you know, we’re not abusive, blah, blah, right? You weren’t alcoholic. You didn’t get drunk all the time. Like, that’s a bad husband. So you’re a good husband. But there is a drastic difference between good and great, and that’s what people don’t understand, is, do you want to be a good husband? And your wife would say, yeah, he’s a good husband. Or do you want to be the husband that your wife’s like, I thank God I found this man. He is the man I can rely on. He is the one that encourages me and supports me and believes in me and loves me. And listen like, do you want that type of response? And so I think that that’s where a lot of people. Including myself, bro, I like, I constantly think about how I can come continue to be leveling up, because life gets in the way. I don’t want anyone to think me or you have this 100% all figured out. Oh no, not good. We probably wouldn’t be on this podcast right now, right?

Patrick: Right, that’s it. And it’s, it’s, I’d like to say it’s being average or being elite, right? The average just goes through the motions. They do what they have to do to get by, and it’s okay, which, if you’re okay with being okay, then then cool. This. This message isn’t for you. But I know there’s a vast majority of us that want more, that know we can be more and just need some accountability, need some inspiration, need some a fire lit under their ass and and that’s what I try and do, right? Because all of us can be elite, and that’s the thing is. Like you said, I’m nothing special, right? I’m not some weird anomaly. I just made a decision to push myself for growth, to be better for my family, and then I haven’t negotiated with myself after that (that’s it). I won’t do it that because it’s going to blow me away from being that elite level husband and dad. And to me, that is my first priority. That is my first purpose, is to serve my family well, and then the business, right? I bring that over to the business as well. It’s my priority to serve my clients and give them as much value so that they can do that for their families and and again, I’m not okay with being average. I don’t want to live an average life. And I don’t think most people ever dream of, oh, hey, when I grow up, I want to be average. I just want to get by. I just want to be okay with Dad Bot and and sit and drink beer all day while my kids are wanting to play with me.

Justin: Yeah, I negotiate with myself, right? I’ll be honest, bro. I mean this, this whole I negotiate not working out at night. I’m gonna shoot you straight. And I negotiate because I say I know what happened, because it’s been this way since forever, right? If we had night practices as a kid, I wouldn’t be able to go to sleep until way crazy late. My parents would be super pissed. I’m like, I don’t What do you want me to do? The practice started at 8. It went to 10, like I’m fired up. The same thing as an adult, right? Is I don’t want to work out too late, because then I’m going to be up late, and then it’s harder, so I negotiate against that. Well, the reality is, that’s just an excuse, and deal with it. And so listen, none of us are perfect, and I’ll tell you I’m not perfect, but it’s something I’m aware of. And I think that’s the start of it. Is everyone listening to watching this be aware of what Patrick’s talking about. That’s the start of it. Patrick became aware of he had a bigger purpose than just making some money and providing he had a bigger purpose. And that’s where Level Up Legion came from. And so if anyone’s taking anything away, it needs to be just start with the awareness of what are you trying to do, and are you okay just being a good husband or a good dad, or do you want to be exceptional? And that’s what you got to recognize with, and that’s what you got to reconcile with when you look in the mirror and listen, Patrick, maybe you do. I don’t think you do. I don’t judge any of you. If you just want to be a good dad and a good business owner, that’s awesome. Probably make a good amount of money a year and and treat your family good. Patrick, myself, we always want to level up, right? Shocker, how you named it that way, right? We always want to be better. We always want to be exceptional. And so, Patrick, you know, just for the sake of of time, on this episode, where can everyone start to follow you, find you communicate with you, talk to you about Level Up Legion.

Patrick: Sure, I am on Instagram, like I said earlier, Instagram all day, every day. You can message me there. I respond all my messages. I post daily. I’m in the stories all the time. So follow me there. That’s where I try and give as much value. Really drop some nuggets there for you guys to pick up and maybe apply to your life if it strikes you at the right time, but that’s that’s where I show everything. And the whole purpose of that is really to show the effects of following the pillars of the program, how that translates to real life, the effects on your family, the kids, business, all of that. So Instagram, and it’s @thelevelupdad.

Justin: @thelevelupdad, brother, I appreciate you. I love you. I thank you for everything you’ve done for me in the community and all the men and women out there that are part of your program. I know you are changing lives, and just keep your head down, keep pushing, keep growing, because you could be the next Tony Robbins or big right?

Patrick: You know we’ll be here. We’ll be here. I’m not stopping this. Is this my purpose? So I’m gonna keep going till the day I die. So anybody that needs anything, I’m an open book, like I said. I’m here to provide value, so don’t hesitate to reach out to me.

Justin: Let’s go @thelevelupdad on Instagram, I appreciate your entrepreneur. And if, again, if you are listening to this on Apple, make sure you are watching this over Justincolby.tv I’ll see you guys all later. Peace